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I've got to buy a set of foul weather gear and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations or opinions they'd like to share.
I'll be racing on the bay in a few weeks, probably grinding, although I may end up as rail meat if someone with more experience replaces me. The boat I'm in is 37 feet, but I eventually expect to be racing in smaller boats too (ideally the Melgas 24 sort).
I'm leaning towards the almost-dry-suit style, since that will mean I don't have any excuse to get out even when the weather is lousy. It also means I can use it over my motorcycle leathers when riding (including when riding to the marina).
So Gill? Musto? Henri Lloyd? Marine West? Anything else recommended or disparaged?
I'll be racing on the bay in a few weeks, probably grinding, although I may end up as rail meat if someone with more experience replaces me. The boat I'm in is 37 feet, but I eventually expect to be racing in smaller boats too (ideally the Melgas 24 sort).
I'm leaning towards the almost-dry-suit style, since that will mean I don't have any excuse to get out even when the weather is lousy. It also means I can use it over my motorcycle leathers when riding (including when riding to the marina).
So Gill? Musto? Henri Lloyd? Marine West? Anything else recommended or disparaged?
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Re: Rec'd on foulies?
Fri, April 27, 2007 - 7:28 PMI would get a cheap set from West Marine. Or maybe just the bottoms and a windbreaker you have already. I see a lot of racers on the Bay wearing lighter gear and not the full on cruising foulies. I have a set of "breathable" West Marine foulies. Right now I'm suffering in Northern BC because they leak like a sieve and if I had the money would go to the fishing supply store and buy the rubber rain gear that the fisherman where.
I would wear my cruising foulies for racing on the Bay and was kinda made fun of by the rest of the crew. Rightly so for racing one needs to move fast and not be wrapped like a mummy. Also race boats are weight sensitive and one gets funny looks bringing to much gear aboard. The foulie bottoms are the most important part, they are what you spend most of your time in. Wear pants under them. Your legs take a beating racing, jeans and foulie bottoms protect your legs as your sliding your ass across the deck. Another reason not to spend much money is that your gear gets trashed, going from rail to rail. -
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Re: Rec'd on foulies?
Sat, May 19, 2007 - 3:41 PMI'd like to get some recommendations re brands myself, but I absolutely second the idea of going for foulie bottoms that are no more than medium weight. I used to crew on an extraordinarily narrow boat with teak decks -- it carried a significant heel and pretty wet in anything over 15 kts, so we were always in foulies, and the decks just tore them up ... One guy took to wearing a fancy suit, and ended up with very blue lips and a bit of a vacant stare at the end of the day -- hypothermia no doubt. And the point about having an extra layer to save your legs and ass is definitely a good one.
On modern, beamy boats that sail flatter, medium or even light weigh foulies will be fine in the cockpit, and on the rail, too -- esp if that's not your usual position.
Don't forget boots -- wet feet suck.
Now -- anybody happy with their brand?
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Re: Rec'd on foulies?
Sat, May 19, 2007 - 7:32 PMI asked a fisherman, the other day, how much were the Helly Hansen suits the fishermen favor. They run under a hundred bucks. It's the way I'm going to go. If I was going to race in the Bay, I would get something more fashionable. My Yuppie foulies suck, in Southeast Alaska.
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Re: Rec'd on foulies?
Sun, May 20, 2007 - 9:29 PManother vote here for West Marine. Start with bottoms. On a 37ft boat, you could probably get away with a windbraker as a top to start with. spend the money on knee-pads. On the smaller boat, you will need tops.
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Re: Rec'd on foulies?
Mon, May 21, 2007 - 10:34 PMWell, I went the moderately expensive route, since I hope to be getting salt spray in my hair as often as possible, and soaking bow waves only a little less often. So I got the Gill keelboat racers, and I've been very impressed with how comfortable they are. When I first got them I wore them in my apartment for an hour or so while reading the product literature on my new toys (my new auto-inflatable vest, too -- I'm not that slow of a reader :-). And they were actually fine for lounging in.
I've since been out in the slot in our stiff breezes and the stuff remains great, although it doesn't do too much for warmth -- the breathability means there is more cooling by evaporation than with a non-breathing windbreaker like I had been using before. So I'll probably need to layer more. But I have that stuff from backpacking anyway.
On related news, if you don't mind having coldish feet, I've found a nice combo for shoes. I've learned through long experience (mostly motorcycling) that even if my feet are cold and wet, I won't really mind as long as my core temperature (torso) and head and hands are warm. And since wool and plenty of new tech fabrics are adequate at insulating even when wet, I've got with plain woolen socks under amphibious shoes that I picked up for white-water rafting. It works fine, and means I can cheap shoes with decent grip instead of grippy shoes that keep my feet dry.